Is Reef Resort Sihanoukville run by scammers?
I've stayed there a couple of times and it's been quite nice. Looks worse to be an investor than a customer!
For those who can't be arsed to click through, gist of the complaints below. Has the person making these complaints created a whole website for Reef Resort, or hijacked their existing one?
The Reef Resort - Run by Scammers and Conmen
It is not recommended to stay here because it is managed by a few conmen nor is it advised to invest/buy this business.
Reef Resort is managed by a group of conmen and scammers. They have a history of ripping people off, not paying their debts, and taking investors money and misallocating funds for their private use. They will tell you big tales of what they own and are doing. But if you dig a little deeper, they are selling you there scam. They want your money to finance their projects but will not take any responsibility in any of it while then using money for their personal use.
Pierre Kahn
Pierre is a Cambodian local running about portraying himself to be a businessman with many businesses. All failing. Too greedy for his own good, he is a victim of his need to impress officials and tell people that he has businesses and knows many people. The first thing he will tell you (without you inquiring) is of his next meeting with some department head, or how he works with some important people, or he has plans to build a new hotel.
The truth is, he is a conman only trying to make a dollar. If he tells you grand stories, let him stroke his own ego but don't get involved in one of his many scams to have you put money in, only to have everything fall apart and him blame you
Dave Dobson
Dave comes from England. He is a local expat living in Sihanoukville. He has partnered up with Pierre Kahn, and seemingly like an upfront and nice guy, this guy lacks serious integrity.
With big plans that fell apart due to his inexperience but big ego it has led him to big debts that are unable to be paid. Him and his team owe people money and fail to take responsibility for their actions. Call it delusions of grandeur or rather he is making up for his insecurities for being picked on as a child.
He is the typical - Look good and talk a big game as though he has many businesses, yet not understanding a business requires a foundation to build on. And more importantly, management of the business money, not as personal assets.
Someone please tell him:
- The business's money is not your pocket money, do not treat it as your personal money
- Using business funds for other ventures is misallocating money, and you have a responsibility to report and record how funds are used.
- Recommended reading - Ego is your Enemy by Ryan Holiday
Liam Fisher.
He comes from Scotland. He is the messenger boy and carries out what he is told to do. With good intentions but not enough brains to know what to do with himself.
For all those who have complaints with your stay or food, he will gladly resolve your complaints.
The Reef Resort - Run by Scammers and Conmen
It is not recommended to stay here because it is managed by a few conmen nor is it advised to invest/buy this business.
Reef Resort is managed by a group of conmen and scammers. They have a history of ripping people off, not paying their debts, and taking investors money and misallocating funds for their private use. They will tell you big tales of what they own and are doing. But if you dig a little deeper, they are selling you there scam. They want your money to finance their projects but will not take any responsibility in any of it while then using money for their personal use.
Pierre Kahn
Pierre is a Cambodian local running about portraying himself to be a businessman with many businesses. All failing. Too greedy for his own good, he is a victim of his need to impress officials and tell people that he has businesses and knows many people. The first thing he will tell you (without you inquiring) is of his next meeting with some department head, or how he works with some important people, or he has plans to build a new hotel.
The truth is, he is a conman only trying to make a dollar. If he tells you grand stories, let him stroke his own ego but don't get involved in one of his many scams to have you put money in, only to have everything fall apart and him blame you
Dave Dobson
Dave comes from England. He is a local expat living in Sihanoukville. He has partnered up with Pierre Kahn, and seemingly like an upfront and nice guy, this guy lacks serious integrity.
With big plans that fell apart due to his inexperience but big ego it has led him to big debts that are unable to be paid. Him and his team owe people money and fail to take responsibility for their actions. Call it delusions of grandeur or rather he is making up for his insecurities for being picked on as a child.
He is the typical - Look good and talk a big game as though he has many businesses, yet not understanding a business requires a foundation to build on. And more importantly, management of the business money, not as personal assets.
Someone please tell him:
- The business's money is not your pocket money, do not treat it as your personal money
- Using business funds for other ventures is misallocating money, and you have a responsibility to report and record how funds are used.
- Recommended reading - Ego is your Enemy by Ryan Holiday
Liam Fisher.
He comes from Scotland. He is the messenger boy and carries out what he is told to do. With good intentions but not enough brains to know what to do with himself.
For all those who have complaints with your stay or food, he will gladly resolve your complaints.
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strange website;
u can book a room but than it tells ya its run by scammers...
makes me think some one has hacked the site
Whois Record ( last updated on 2017-07-13 )
% NOTE: The registry for this domain name does not publish ownership
% records (whois records) in the standard format. This data
% represents the most likely status of the domain based on
% information provided by the Internet's domain name servers (DNS).
domain: reefresort.com.kh
status: taken
nameserver: dns1.online.com.kh
nameserver: dns2.online.com.kh
nameserver: dns3.online.com.kh
screenshot from before
http://research.domaintools.com/researc ... .com.kh/#0
u can book a room but than it tells ya its run by scammers...
makes me think some one has hacked the site
Whois Record ( last updated on 2017-07-13 )
% NOTE: The registry for this domain name does not publish ownership
% records (whois records) in the standard format. This data
% represents the most likely status of the domain based on
% information provided by the Internet's domain name servers (DNS).
domain: reefresort.com.kh
status: taken
nameserver: dns1.online.com.kh
nameserver: dns2.online.com.kh
nameserver: dns3.online.com.kh
screenshot from before
http://research.domaintools.com/researc ... .com.kh/#0
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It was one of these lads that was pictured giving the middle finger to the camera whilst being arrested a while back.
http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... er#p746706
http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... er#p746706
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On the info page it says the following:
INFO
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Email: [email protected]
Telephone: +855(0)12 315338 or 034 934281
Previously Reef Resort, built by an American Expatriate 12 years ago, as of May 16th 2015, is under new ownership and management. With an international team of Two Khmer Partners, One Japanese American, and One English Partner, with a combined 30 years of Experience in the Asian Service Industry, we are aiming to bring A premier boutique resort and restaurant experience to Sihanoukville.
My mail is that it is the Japanese American partner that is the aggrieved party in this who has/had the access codes to all the internet, booking dot com, facebook and the website and a dispute has not been settled to his liking it seems. Caused quite a panic and all except the website is now under control of the alleged scammers and conmen. Pity for them they were not able to jump on this and keep it quiet. Defamation is a criminal offense in Cambodia (as is fraud) so the play out of this one could be interesting.
I have family and quite a few friends staying at the Reef right now and it is a great place and very reasonably priced right for the quality and location. If they are scammers than it is not in their dealings with their customers that I know of and I will still recommend the place to people.
This appears to be a nasty partnership dispute and not reflective of their treatment of guests.
Incidentally I have just got back from a night at Coral resort by Reef on Koh Rong that is run by a friend and had a great time there.
The Reef has 3 accommodation places/operations on Koh Rong, on Long Set Beach. Apparently the other khmer partner, who is not named as one of the scammers and conmen lives on Koh Rong.
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INFO
Picture
Email: [email protected]
Telephone: +855(0)12 315338 or 034 934281
Previously Reef Resort, built by an American Expatriate 12 years ago, as of May 16th 2015, is under new ownership and management. With an international team of Two Khmer Partners, One Japanese American, and One English Partner, with a combined 30 years of Experience in the Asian Service Industry, we are aiming to bring A premier boutique resort and restaurant experience to Sihanoukville.
My mail is that it is the Japanese American partner that is the aggrieved party in this who has/had the access codes to all the internet, booking dot com, facebook and the website and a dispute has not been settled to his liking it seems. Caused quite a panic and all except the website is now under control of the alleged scammers and conmen. Pity for them they were not able to jump on this and keep it quiet. Defamation is a criminal offense in Cambodia (as is fraud) so the play out of this one could be interesting.
I have family and quite a few friends staying at the Reef right now and it is a great place and very reasonably priced right for the quality and location. If they are scammers than it is not in their dealings with their customers that I know of and I will still recommend the place to people.
This appears to be a nasty partnership dispute and not reflective of their treatment of guests.
Incidentally I have just got back from a night at Coral resort by Reef on Koh Rong that is run by a friend and had a great time there.
The Reef has 3 accommodation places/operations on Koh Rong, on Long Set Beach. Apparently the other khmer partner, who is not named as one of the scammers and conmen lives on Koh Rong.
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Note to self: Must be nice to morons.
I've received a message from one of the Reef Resort guys saying that they are in a legal battle with Jason Yamanaka about his 'defamation of our businesses' and asking me to take down any slanderous posts.
Lawyers letters have been mentioned.
I'm not sure on what basis the request has been made. Discussing allegedly slanderous statements made very publicly by someone else is not in itself slanderous.
Lawyers letters have been mentioned.
I'm not sure on what basis the request has been made. Discussing allegedly slanderous statements made very publicly by someone else is not in itself slanderous.
I blame Gavin for being the messenger.
Although it was on Twitter at least a month ago. (Google/Bing the web address)
Although it was on Twitter at least a month ago. (Google/Bing the web address)
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Why do you say that?scobienz wrote:Discussing allegedly slanderous statements made very publicly by someone else is not in itself slanderous.
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I hear the Reef Resort is hiring lawyers to defend them and their business. Unfortunately defamation laws offer them no protection atoll.
My posts are just jokes, maybe they're rude, offensive, and politically incorrect. They're not my opinion, viewpoint, idea, or judgement, but they're just fucking jokes so lighten up.
6/10.Garry Crabtree wrote:I hear the Reef Resort is hiring lawyers to defend them and their business. Unfortunately defamation laws offer them no protection atoll.
Fair effort.
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I knew I recognised the face.Speak No Evil wrote:It was one of these lads that was pictured giving the middle finger to the camera whilst being arrested a while back.
http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... er#p746706
And that Dobson character looks far too much like Phil Tufnell to be trusted.
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Sounds like pretty standard business practice around these parts.
If you make an investment in a business here, you better be active in it's management.
If you make an investment in a business here, you better be active in it's management.
" Tho I am wise I have to wait like any other fool"
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