Government to cut Public Holidays
- Playboy
- 20,000 Posts; I need professional help !
- Reactions: 288
- Posts: 24827
- Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:30 pm
- Location: Hotel K: Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
- Contact:
Government to cut Public Holidays
"After years of lobbying by the private sector for reduced public holidays, Cambodia has finally relented to slice off seven days in the name of productivity and making itself competitive.
The surprise move is evidence of a fever felt by Cambodia on the possible withdrawal of the Everything-but-arms trade scheme. Over the months since the announcement of the possible withdrawal by the European Union, measures either political or trade-linked are being implemented to show its seriousness in honouring the terms in the privilege accorded to least developed countries"
Full Article at:
https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50585499/h ... ductivity/
"We, the sons of John Company, have arrived"
- Lucky Lucan
- K440 Knight Captain
- Reactions: 761
- Posts: 22525
- Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:24 pm
- Location: The Pearl of the Orient
This might not be a very popular move....
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
- Playboy
- 20,000 Posts; I need professional help !
- Reactions: 288
- Posts: 24827
- Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:30 pm
- Location: Hotel K: Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
- Contact:
Of course, you know that the Trade Unions and Employment Federations are going to go completely spastic over this and throw all their toys out of the pram - pretty much like the self-serving cunts do about anything here.
The great unwashed masses in the factories will get all indignant and pissy because of them, and we will probably see a whole bunch of strikes in the garment sector - both legal and illegal ones.
Plus you know that that Rabble Rousing Retard Rainsy will try and jump on the band wagon and try and get them marching - while he prays for rioting and violence from the safety of his Parisian pied-à-terre.
In the end it will probably end up being paid for by the Private sector in some way:
- 7 days less holiday per year = 7 days more pay per year - would be my guess/prediction
So seven more days more productivity, for a further increase in the minimum wage, in a sector that is already losing it labour arbitrage advantages to better skilled locations with lower salary and lower energy overheads.
Ho Hum
The great unwashed masses in the factories will get all indignant and pissy because of them, and we will probably see a whole bunch of strikes in the garment sector - both legal and illegal ones.
Plus you know that that Rabble Rousing Retard Rainsy will try and jump on the band wagon and try and get them marching - while he prays for rioting and violence from the safety of his Parisian pied-à-terre.
In the end it will probably end up being paid for by the Private sector in some way:
- 7 days less holiday per year = 7 days more pay per year - would be my guess/prediction
So seven more days more productivity, for a further increase in the minimum wage, in a sector that is already losing it labour arbitrage advantages to better skilled locations with lower salary and lower energy overheads.
Ho Hum
"We, the sons of John Company, have arrived"
- Hairy-nosed Otter
- Expat in exile
- Reactions: 5
- Posts: 224
- Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:04 am
Does that mean that the workers who are not "pissy self-serving unwashed c***s" are allowed to have strong unions, humane conditions and a living wage? Like my step-daughter.Playboy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:35 amOf course, you know that the Trade Unions and Employment Federations are going to go completely spastic over this and throw all their toys out of the pram - pretty much like the self-serving cunts do about anything here.
The great unwashed masses in the factories will get all indignant and pissy because of them, and we will probably see a whole bunch of strikes in the garment sector - both legal and illegal ones.
Plus you know that that Rabble Rousing Retard Rainsy will try and jump on the band wagon and try and get them marching - while he prays for rioting and violence from the safety of his Parisian pied-à-terre.
In the end it will probably end up being paid for by the Private sector in some way:
- 7 days less holiday per year = 7 days more pay per year - would be my guess/prediction
So seven more days more productivity, for a further increase in the minimum wage, in a sector that is already losing it labour arbitrage advantages to better skilled locations with lower salary and lower energy overheads.
Ho Hum
Arsehole.
...then he smiled again, and slipped away, further on up the stream
- Playboy
- 20,000 Posts; I need professional help !
- Reactions: 288
- Posts: 24827
- Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:30 pm
- Location: Hotel K: Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
- Contact:
Try again, 'Pissy self-serving cunts' referred to those running the unions/federations.
(Nice of you to throw in 'unwashed' all by yourself)
Or do you believe that corruption here stops at the edge of the government ?
Have you ever employed 100s of Khmer workers?
Have you ever negotiated with Khmer union leaders?
Or union leaders in any corrupt, or third world country?
Or any union leaders anywhere, or anyone who is only looking out for themselves?
Arsehole
(Nice of you to throw in 'unwashed' all by yourself)
Or do you believe that corruption here stops at the edge of the government ?
Have you ever employed 100s of Khmer workers?
Have you ever negotiated with Khmer union leaders?
Or union leaders in any corrupt, or third world country?
Or any union leaders anywhere, or anyone who is only looking out for themselves?
Arsehole
"We, the sons of John Company, have arrived"
- Hairy-nosed Otter
- Expat in exile
- Reactions: 5
- Posts: 224
- Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:04 am
Firstly, I will retract the "Arsehole - in the interests of continuing a rational dialogue.
I am aware that your "self-serving cunts" was referring to those running the unions. Point taken. But the unions are the freely chosen representatives of the workers, and often are workers themselves. By trashing the reps you are trashing the union members/the workers. Believe me, the workers are not dupes.
"The great unwashed masses in the factories will get all indignant and pissy" You said it - about the workers.
As for "self serving"; Hard slog and courage by those union reps led to garment worker's pay doubling over the past few years. If you think that was unwarranted - take a look at some photographs of those girls at that time. Thin, wan, unhealthy and unhappy.
Every question you raise about dealing with the unions applies double to the employers, except the bosses have all the power behind them.
Besides, my friend, even if higher wages are bad for the bosses, they are good for the economy. You can't buy many consumer goods on $65/month. Right now, all over the world central banks, and even business groups, are bemoaning wage stagnation as being the major inhibiter of economic growth.
Thanks for listening, I hope we are both over the Arsehole stuff.
I am aware that your "self-serving cunts" was referring to those running the unions. Point taken. But the unions are the freely chosen representatives of the workers, and often are workers themselves. By trashing the reps you are trashing the union members/the workers. Believe me, the workers are not dupes.
"The great unwashed masses in the factories will get all indignant and pissy" You said it - about the workers.
As for "self serving"; Hard slog and courage by those union reps led to garment worker's pay doubling over the past few years. If you think that was unwarranted - take a look at some photographs of those girls at that time. Thin, wan, unhealthy and unhappy.
Every question you raise about dealing with the unions applies double to the employers, except the bosses have all the power behind them.
Besides, my friend, even if higher wages are bad for the bosses, they are good for the economy. You can't buy many consumer goods on $65/month. Right now, all over the world central banks, and even business groups, are bemoaning wage stagnation as being the major inhibiter of economic growth.
Thanks for listening, I hope we are both over the Arsehole stuff.
...then he smiled again, and slipped away, further on up the stream
- Miguelito
- Ordinary Schmo
- Reactions: 219
- Posts: 7053
- Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:19 pm
- Location: Penh's Hill
And next January we will read a headline that the country will get a full week off for Chinese New Year. Which, to be honest, they might as well just do as work essentially just stopped anyways that week, especially down in SHV which also happens to be where most goods enter the country, thereby affecting trade in PP as well. If it were a public holiday then at least it's better accounted for.
- Playboy
- 20,000 Posts; I need professional help !
- Reactions: 288
- Posts: 24827
- Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:30 pm
- Location: Hotel K: Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
- Contact:
HNO - firstly, I appreciate the Arsehole Retraction ...
Will address the other points later when I get time, am on the fly at the minute.
But quickly, you point out that the rise in the minimum wage is good for the over all economy - which is true, up to a point. But when the overheads of those businesses, that so not need to be based in Cambodia, increase too much they can just move to another country where the labour costs and the energy costs are already cheaper than they are now. Which does the economy here, and the 700,000 direct garment industry workers here no good at all. Especially as the more unscrupulous companies (which I suspect are your main beef) will just fold up and vanish leaving behind unpaid bills, expenses and salaries. As has happened numerous times over the years
Will address the other points later when I get time, am on the fly at the minute.
But quickly, you point out that the rise in the minimum wage is good for the over all economy - which is true, up to a point. But when the overheads of those businesses, that so not need to be based in Cambodia, increase too much they can just move to another country where the labour costs and the energy costs are already cheaper than they are now. Which does the economy here, and the 700,000 direct garment industry workers here no good at all. Especially as the more unscrupulous companies (which I suspect are your main beef) will just fold up and vanish leaving behind unpaid bills, expenses and salaries. As has happened numerous times over the years
"We, the sons of John Company, have arrived"
- vladimir
- Feminist Watch List
- Reactions: 4
- Posts: 34235
- Joined: Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:43 am
- Location: mod edit
About bloody time they cut holidays. I support unions, but seriously, 28 days a year? Plus annual leave? Get riel.
Nobody's mentioned all the hourly-paid non-garment industry workers.
Nobody's mentioned all the hourly-paid non-garment industry workers.
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
- Prahok
- I Am Losing It All to the Internet
- Reactions: 222
- Posts: 1434
- Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:33 pm
The lobbying was to reduce the number of public holidays and to increase the level of annual leave. The problem was less the total time off and more that everyone took time off simultaneously, resulting in business cessation or the payment of additional allowances. It also meant staff at times struggled to make anything of their time off as transport networks would be overwhelmed during those periods.
- Miguelito
- Ordinary Schmo
- Reactions: 219
- Posts: 7053
- Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:19 pm
- Location: Penh's Hill
Good points to take into consideration.Prahok wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:27 amThe lobbying was to reduce the number of public holidays and to increase the level of annual leave. The problem was less the total time off and more that everyone took time off simultaneously, resulting in business cessation or the payment of additional allowances. It also meant staff at times struggled to make anything of their time off as transport networks would be overwhelmed during those periods.
The question is... what days would they take away?
My suggestion would be to cancel the rule that days roll over if they fall on a Sunday - that way they can still be celebrated, and it would be an easy compromise. That would cut three holidays this year, which are all already three days long anyways.
Other days are tricky, as they seem to fall into a few categories: international holidays (New Years, Labor Day, etc); Royal (King's bday, etc); Buddhist (Pchum Ben, etc); and Remembrance of the war/genocide.
I would cut Children's Day to start, and international human rights day.
So, that would be five cut. For the remaining two, I would reduce water festival from three days to two (hell, they cancel the whole thing lots of times anyways), and perhaps make Royal Plowing Ceremony just an observation or something, but not an official holiday.
As an employer, I agree that there are too many holidays, especially long ones, and you certainly see the effect on your bottom line. As an employee (that likes to travel), I love the quality of life these holidays afford me.
- Miguelito
- Ordinary Schmo
- Reactions: 219
- Posts: 7053
- Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:19 pm
- Location: Penh's Hill
This was from the speech on Friday:
TLDR; 7 days to be cut, still not sure which ones.Oknha Van Sou Ieng, chairman of the Garment Manufacturers Association of Cambodia, has asked the Royal Government to consider reducing the number of public holidays. Indeed, we have assessed that the annual public holidays in Cambodia are more than those of neighboring countries. Cambodia’s public holidays in recent years were from 28 to 30 days per year while Vietnam has 13 days, Laos has 12 days, Thailand has 16 days and Singapore only 11 days. To further promote Cambodia’s productivity, I have advised the inter-ministerial working group, under the facilitation of the Economic and Financial Policy Committee, to review and propose a reduction of public holidays and have decided to eliminate seven days of public holidays from 2020. Let me state that the reduction in the number of public holidays is not meant to eliminate religious or royal ceremonies or national and international days that the Royal Government and the Cambodian people have always closely observed but days in which civil servants in the public sector and workers in the private sector shall report to work as normal.
haplayboy wrote:- 7 days less holiday per year = 7 days more pay per year - would be my guess/prediction
ha ha
ha ha ha
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!
-
- 2000+ Posts! Aghh I Have No Mates
- Reactions: 1
- Posts: 2151
- Joined: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:05 pm
- Location: The Cowshed Cappielow
Which countries offer a cheaper unskilled manufacturing base to Cambodia these days ? Bangladesh, Pakistan, North Korea ? It truly is a bummer when the bottom line is affected by slave labour wanting a living wage. Let them eat cake.
"Everywhere we go .. people want to know ...who we are... where we come from !"
Tartan Army retired foot soldier
Tartan Army retired foot soldier
-
- Similar Topics
- Replies
- Views
- Last post
-
-
Public Holidays for 2024- Now with new 'win-win' day
by Bong Burgundy » Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:24 pm » in Cambodia Speakeasy - 2 Replies
- 476 Views
-
Last post by Bong Burgundy
Tue Jan 02, 2024 6:51 am
-
-
-
Autumn Holidays in Europe bring record number of Travelers
by Expatissimo » Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:47 am » in 'Not' Cambodia - 0 Replies
- 1267 Views
-
Last post by Expatissimo
Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:47 am
-
-
- 11 Replies
- 3628 Views
-
Last post by Felgerkarb
Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:57 pm
-
- 5 Replies
- 1689 Views
-
Last post by Jitters
Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:45 pm