People not self-quarantining
I did it, yea it would've been nice to go out after being stuck in the sandpit for 6 months, but it really ain't that hard. Read a lot of books, drank a shitload of beer, cooked all my meals on the barbie or the smoker, chilled with my dogs....actually, it was bloody bliss!
Will have to do it all over again next month...hope the government does not decide to implement a 14 day mandatory monitored quarantine, there have been some very strong rumours that they may do so after it was discovered that the French & Hungarian twats in SR who tested negative on their 2nd test had been out and about.
Will have to do it all over again next month...hope the government does not decide to implement a 14 day mandatory monitored quarantine, there have been some very strong rumours that they may do so after it was discovered that the French & Hungarian twats in SR who tested negative on their 2nd test had been out and about.
I'm not a negative person, I encourage people all the time...it's usually to f**k off! But, whatever.
"seem to think it's perfectly ok.
Hands up then. Who is not doing it? Reply as a guest if necessary."
Yeah probably because the virus literally ran through asia long before china held their hands up. How many here had the worst flu in their life oct/Nov/dec/Jan? A lot I'm betting.
Hands up then. Who is not doing it? Reply as a guest if necessary."
Yeah probably because the virus literally ran through asia long before china held their hands up. How many here had the worst flu in their life oct/Nov/dec/Jan? A lot I'm betting.
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I don't recall having any flu in many years. I had Pneumonia a couple of times before but way back. Not pleasant.Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:10 pmHow many here had the worst flu in their life oct/Nov/dec/Jan? A lot I'm betting.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
If any of you have the ear of anybody high up (ex SAS, CIA claimants etc excluded)please do us all a favour and suggest heavy penalties and jailtime or deportation when expats flout the rules.
As the kiwi gun monkey said, it won't be like that. It'll be like Vietnam - held in a facility for 14 days.tgylyjov wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:54 amIf any of you have the ear of anybody high up (ex SAS, CIA claimants etc excluded)please do us all a favour and suggest heavy penalties and jailtime or deportation when expats flout the rules.
I don't like the sound of facility.
Edit: I know of one very rich Viet who returned and tried everything to get the authorities to let him self-isolate at his coastal hideaway but, no, it was the facility for him too. That probably wouldn't happen here.
Oh come on. It can be loads of fun in the right company
As Robw said above, some of them post here
My two bits about Covid in Cambodia (If I can't spout my amateur ideas on K440, where can I? Just ignore if you wish.)
There is clear evidence that young children are much less likely to suffer severely from Covid-19. There is slowly growing evidence that young children, a gradient, but let's say 8 and under, rarely spread the disease.
We don't know that these two 'facts' have a single cause, but a lot of recent speculation is based on the young having an early, aggressive more general, naive, response to viral infections, because almost all viruses are new to them. Most often, this quick, intensive response eliminates the virus before significant viral shedding occurs.
In the first few days, Adult immune response, because we already have quite a few specific virus tools in the tool box, tries to figure out which tool will work best, then tries that. Meanwhile, the virus is replicating and beginning to shed, asymptomatic, or pre-symptomatic. Commonly only in upper respiratory to start, once shedding a lot, moving into the lungs is easier, but either way, the bigger and deeper the infection the more likely symptoms are. Then, if our too clever specialized immune response is failing, we might suddenly throw a giant, general, kitchen sink at it, and it becomes a cytokine storm, our own hyped up immune system might be harder on us than the virus itself, sometimes fatally.
I guess, with exactly zero empirical evidence, Cambodians, Laotians, etc need to be always ready to encounter novel viruses (until 20 years ago, the jungle, and jungle meat, was close at hand for maybe 75% of the population), they develop a tool box like adults the world over, but they never get so cool and relaxed about it. Their adult bodies never say, "No worries, I know this, I got this. Chill." They throw a big general response right away and as a result don't shed much. Community spread has a hard time taking off. Plus, like much of the third world, e.g. much of Africa, they have good recent public health experience with epidemic response, and they do some important things much better than, for example, USA.
I guess, again with exactly zero empirical evidence, that India, a giant among drug producers, antivirals as well as the jellybean antibiotics that get popped everywhere in Cambodia. has evolved, especially in BIG old cities, a bit differently.
Not sure if malaria, multiples of Dengue, assorted typhoid, etc, etc. will help me in a Covid encounter, but maybe I'll find out.
There is clear evidence that young children are much less likely to suffer severely from Covid-19. There is slowly growing evidence that young children, a gradient, but let's say 8 and under, rarely spread the disease.
We don't know that these two 'facts' have a single cause, but a lot of recent speculation is based on the young having an early, aggressive more general, naive, response to viral infections, because almost all viruses are new to them. Most often, this quick, intensive response eliminates the virus before significant viral shedding occurs.
In the first few days, Adult immune response, because we already have quite a few specific virus tools in the tool box, tries to figure out which tool will work best, then tries that. Meanwhile, the virus is replicating and beginning to shed, asymptomatic, or pre-symptomatic. Commonly only in upper respiratory to start, once shedding a lot, moving into the lungs is easier, but either way, the bigger and deeper the infection the more likely symptoms are. Then, if our too clever specialized immune response is failing, we might suddenly throw a giant, general, kitchen sink at it, and it becomes a cytokine storm, our own hyped up immune system might be harder on us than the virus itself, sometimes fatally.
I guess, with exactly zero empirical evidence, Cambodians, Laotians, etc need to be always ready to encounter novel viruses (until 20 years ago, the jungle, and jungle meat, was close at hand for maybe 75% of the population), they develop a tool box like adults the world over, but they never get so cool and relaxed about it. Their adult bodies never say, "No worries, I know this, I got this. Chill." They throw a big general response right away and as a result don't shed much. Community spread has a hard time taking off. Plus, like much of the third world, e.g. much of Africa, they have good recent public health experience with epidemic response, and they do some important things much better than, for example, USA.
I guess, again with exactly zero empirical evidence, that India, a giant among drug producers, antivirals as well as the jellybean antibiotics that get popped everywhere in Cambodia. has evolved, especially in BIG old cities, a bit differently.
Not sure if malaria, multiples of Dengue, assorted typhoid, etc, etc. will help me in a Covid encounter, but maybe I'll find out.
Your suggestion that low numbers in Cambodia and Laos could be down to the population being like children because they relied on ‘jungle meat’ 20 years ago is utterly bizarre.
It also ignores the fact that other rapidly developing countries like India, Brazil. Bangladesh, Philippines etc all have high contagion rates.
It also ignores the fact that other rapidly developing countries like India, Brazil. Bangladesh, Philippines etc all have high contagion rates.
I remember reading a few months ago from a medical source that Khmer plasma was slightly different, a matter of proteins or enzymes. Far fetched as well but more credible than the jungle meat theory.Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:30 pmYour suggestion that low numbers in Cambodia and Laos could be down to the population being like children because they relied on ‘jungle meat’ 20 years ago is utterly bizarre.
It also ignores the fact that other rapidly developing countries like India, Brazil. Bangladesh, Philippines etc all have high contagion rates.
So you, I mean those, European quarantine flouters are only a danger to other occidentals?logos wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:07 pmI remember reading a few months ago from a medical source that Khmer plasma was slightly different, a matter of proteins or enzymes. Far fetched as well but more credible than the jungle meat theory.Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:30 pmYour suggestion that low numbers in Cambodia and Laos could be down to the population being like children because they relied on ‘jungle meat’ 20 years ago is utterly bizarre.
It also ignores the fact that other rapidly developing countries like India, Brazil. Bangladesh, Philippines etc all have high contagion rates.
I guess guys with weak constitutions and bodies ruined by years of abuse might feel at risk even just by wandering outside.RobW wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:18 pmSo you, I mean those, European quarantine flouters are only a danger to other occidentals?logos wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:07 pmI remember reading a few months ago from a medical source that Khmer plasma was slightly different, a matter of proteins or enzymes. Far fetched as well but more credible than the jungle meat theory.Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:30 pmYour suggestion that low numbers in Cambodia and Laos could be down to the population being like children because they relied on ‘jungle meat’ 20 years ago is utterly bizarre.
It also ignores the fact that other rapidly developing countries like India, Brazil. Bangladesh, Philippines etc all have high contagion rates.
You might want to order in in the next few months ?
Listen up, Logos.logos wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:54 pmI guess guys with weak constitutions and bodies ruined by years of abuse might feel at risk even just by wandering outside.RobW wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:18 pmSo you, I mean those, European quarantine flouters are only a danger to other occidentals?logos wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:07 pmI remember reading a few months ago from a medical source that Khmer plasma was slightly different, a matter of proteins or enzymes. Far fetched as well but more credible than the jungle meat theory.Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:30 pmYour suggestion that low numbers in Cambodia and Laos could be down to the population being like children because they relied on ‘jungle meat’ 20 years ago is utterly bizarre.
It also ignores the fact that other rapidly developing countries like India, Brazil. Bangladesh, Philippines etc all have high contagion rates.
You might want to order in in the next few months ?
Kiwi has put it far better than I could have.
Now go back in and shut your door.
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