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At Baalbek,Lebanon or ancient Heliopolis as posted above the smallest three of six massive worked stone blocks are part of a podium wall in the Roman complex of the Temple of Jupiter Baal (Heliopolitan Zeus) on Tal Baalbek,they are known as the “Trilithon”.pedros wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:10 amRE stars: People for thousands of generations had no written word, radio, TV or Pornhub and a lack of travel opportunities. Looking up at night would have been the only entertainment. Bored pasturalists with half a brain across the globe would have been able to identify and plot the predictable movements and share them with the tribe like a neolithic Ted Talk.
RE floods: Even today, with dams and water management systems there are fuck-off big floods in all corners of the world, along with tsumanis and freak high tide storms. Ancient cultures had no Met Office or early warning apps, and also happened to build the best civilisations next to major water courses. Of course there were epic floods across the whole 'world', which only stretched to the next moutain range or desert.
Global events, such as the ice age melt, forming of the Med/Black Sea, sinking of Doggerbank etc. would have lived on in oral tradition as creation myths, taking more of a local twist as millenia past (no Eastenders to entertain the family).
RE stones: Where there's a will, there's a way. Never underestimate the skills and strengths of a large group of people with nothing better to do, and perhaps the influence of a despotic God King who really wants some massive shit built for a vanity project in the desert.
'How did the Easter Island heads get there?' asked the Europeans. 'They walked' replied the islanders. Superstitious piffle thought the superior white men, but actually, with a few handwoven ropes and a dozen of so burly Polynesians...
RE: it's amazing how so many cultures built similar shaped structures: When my kid was 3, he learned that the best lego towers were built in pyramid shapes. How did Hancock's linked peoples in South America and SEA (with alien technology) not use arches, which the Egyptians had toyed with around 6000 years ago, the Assyrians messed around with and the Romans totally nailed 6 centuries before the birth of Christ?
Or yeah, aliens.
Each of these is estimated at about 830-880 tons are you suggesting that men with woven ropes “walked” them into place also?
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A post on Quora answers the question with the painting below from inside one of the pyramids. Notice the water being poured, and others seem to think that clay was used to slide the blocks.
I dunno. I obviously ain't no scientist, but have worked with heavy machinery for a fair chunk of my life, and shifted some shit with machines and levers, and still struggle to imagine it.
Hancock's series is currently running on Netflix.
I dunno. I obviously ain't no scientist, but have worked with heavy machinery for a fair chunk of my life, and shifted some shit with machines and levers, and still struggle to imagine it.
Hancock's series is currently running on Netflix.
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construction probably started soon after c. 16 BC, when Baalbek became a Roman colony known as Colonia Julia Augusta Felix Heliopolitana. It was largely completed by AD 60 as evidenced by a graffito located on one of the topmost column drums.Chroy Changvarite wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:56 pm
At Baalbek,Lebanon or ancient Heliopolis as posted above the smallest three of six massive worked stone blocks are part of a podium wall in the Roman complex of the Temple of Jupiter Baal (Heliopolitan Zeus) on Tal Baalbek,they are known as the “Trilithon”.
Each of these is estimated at about 830-880 tons are you suggesting that men with woven ropes “walked” them into place also?
The original method of construction remains an archeological mystery.So it took 70 years or so to build- pretty slow going for aliens. Maybe an average length of time to utilise a huge slave force from local conquered territories
This quarry was slightly higher than the temple complex, so no lifting was required to move the stones.
Individual Roman cranes were not capable of lifting stones in the 60 to 100 tonne range, but a special one could have been built only for this temple.No lifting aliens needed
The large stones may have probably been rolled into position along temporary earthen banks from the quarry or multiple cranes may have been used in combination, or they might have alternated sides a little at a time, filling in supports underneath each time.
Continued archaeological investigations have been hindered by civil unrest in the region.
EDIT: If 12 or so 'primitive' Polynesians can move a 14 ton rock, a much more technologically advanced culture like the Romans, with huge reserves of manpower and materials, backed up with knowledge pinched from the Greeks, whom had pilfered tricks from the ancient Egyptians, could probably have come up with a way of moving something 60x heavier. Not saying it was easy, but a few generations of enslaved elbow grease...Interesting theories, but it was obviously pyramid building aliens, who had taken a 2500 year long tea break after building Giza, nipped of to the pub for a 1000 year lunchtime pint and reappeared in 10th century Cambodia too pissed up to bother making things on the previous scale, but still doing alien things.
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noChroy Changvarite wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:43 pmWhat about Machu Picchu in Peru built on top of a mountain that takes three or four days to trek to?
The Great Pyramid of Giza is still the heaviest building on the Planet Earth by quite some distance,built on sand 5,000 years ago we don’t have the technology to build to the same tolerances even today!
Definitely something not quite adding up here Ancient Aliens is the only rational explanation!
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Hmmm interesting perspective. I wonder how long it would take to rediscover the skills if there was a big reset and modern lives were disruptedthatchthat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:49 amIn 100 years there won't be anyone who can thatch a roof or mill a stone for a spear or repair a gasoline engine etc.
Just because modern man can't work out how something was done does not mean it was not possible.
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How is your theory any better or any different from the theory of an advanced ancient culture that has disappeared somehow and somewhere,they are both the same just theories?pedros wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:10 pmconstruction probably started soon after c. 16 BC, when Baalbek became a Roman colony known as Colonia Julia Augusta Felix Heliopolitana. It was largely completed by AD 60 as evidenced by a graffito located on one of the topmost column drums.Chroy Changvarite wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:56 pm
At Baalbek,Lebanon or ancient Heliopolis as posted above the smallest three of six massive worked stone blocks are part of a podium wall in the Roman complex of the Temple of Jupiter Baal (Heliopolitan Zeus) on Tal Baalbek,they are known as the “Trilithon”.
Each of these is estimated at about 830-880 tons are you suggesting that men with woven ropes “walked” them into place also?
The original method of construction remains an archeological mystery.So it took 70 years or so to build- pretty slow going for aliens. Maybe an average length of time to utilise a huge slave force from local conquered territories
This quarry was slightly higher than the temple complex, so no lifting was required to move the stones.
Individual Roman cranes were not capable of lifting stones in the 60 to 100 tonne range, but a special one could have been built only for this temple.No lifting aliens needed
The large stones may have probably been rolled into position along temporary earthen banks from the quarry or multiple cranes may have been used in combination, or they might have alternated sides a little at a time, filling in supports underneath each time.
Continued archaeological investigations have been hindered by civil unrest in the region.
EDIT: If 12 or so 'primitive' Polynesians can move a 14 ton rock, a much more technologically advanced culture like the Romans, with huge reserves of manpower and materials, backed up with knowledge pinched from the Greeks, whom had pilfered tricks from the ancient Egyptians, could probably have come up with a way of moving something 60x heavier. Not saying it was easy, but a few generations of enslaved elbow grease...Interesting theories, but it was obviously pyramid building aliens, who had taken a 2500 year long tea break after building Giza, nipped of to the pub for a 1000 year lunchtime pint and reappeared in 10th century Cambodia too pissed up to bother making things on the previous scale, but still doing alien things.
Why should we believe you when for thousands of years experts have struggled to explain such anomalies,let’s not even get started on OOPAs/Out-Of-Place-Artifacts…
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I dunno, maybe the fact that people as as species actually exist and have a long track record of actually existing. As a species there's a way long history of doing mad shit, either to control nature or just build cool stuff, as well as simply learning to survive in bitch hard places.Chroy Changvarite wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:23 pmHow is your theory any better or any different from the theory of an advanced ancient culture that has disappeared somehow and somewhere,they are both the same just theories?pedros wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:10 pmconstruction probably started soon after c. 16 BC, when Baalbek became a Roman colony known as Colonia Julia Augusta Felix Heliopolitana. It was largely completed by AD 60 as evidenced by a graffito located on one of the topmost column drums.Chroy Changvarite wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:56 pm
At Baalbek,Lebanon or ancient Heliopolis as posted above the smallest three of six massive worked stone blocks are part of a podium wall in the Roman complex of the Temple of Jupiter Baal (Heliopolitan Zeus) on Tal Baalbek,they are known as the “Trilithon”.
Each of these is estimated at about 830-880 tons are you suggesting that men with woven ropes “walked” them into place also?
The original method of construction remains an archeological mystery.So it took 70 years or so to build- pretty slow going for aliens. Maybe an average length of time to utilise a huge slave force from local conquered territories
This quarry was slightly higher than the temple complex, so no lifting was required to move the stones.
Individual Roman cranes were not capable of lifting stones in the 60 to 100 tonne range, but a special one could have been built only for this temple.No lifting aliens needed
The large stones may have probably been rolled into position along temporary earthen banks from the quarry or multiple cranes may have been used in combination, or they might have alternated sides a little at a time, filling in supports underneath each time.
Continued archaeological investigations have been hindered by civil unrest in the region.
EDIT: If 12 or so 'primitive' Polynesians can move a 14 ton rock, a much more technologically advanced culture like the Romans, with huge reserves of manpower and materials, backed up with knowledge pinched from the Greeks, whom had pilfered tricks from the ancient Egyptians, could probably have come up with a way of moving something 60x heavier. Not saying it was easy, but a few generations of enslaved elbow grease...Interesting theories, but it was obviously pyramid building aliens, who had taken a 2500 year long tea break after building Giza, nipped of to the pub for a 1000 year lunchtime pint and reappeared in 10th century Cambodia too pissed up to bother making things on the previous scale, but still doing alien things.
Why should we believe you when for thousands of years experts have struggled to explain such anomalies,let’s not even get started on OOPAs/Out-Of-Place-Artifacts…
Yet!
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I'm going with ancient alien civilisations that were hella advanced, but left no trace and taught people how to build stupid pyramids= impossible, loads of time and effort of human slaves and animals to build stupid pyramids= plausible.
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It's true. As epic as these monuments are, from an atheist perspective they could be described as pointless.
If just one dude lost his life building them, then it wasn't worth the bother.
One labourers life is worth more than a pile of stones.
(I take it all back if the God's (or aliens)had a role in building them).
If just one dude lost his life building them, then it wasn't worth the bother.
One labourers life is worth more than a pile of stones.
(I take it all back if the God's (or aliens)had a role in building them).
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The Great Pyramid of Giza weighs 5.7 Million Tons so 34% heavier then the next heaviest building in the world at 4 Million tons,which is the one you’ve linked to it is inexplicably left out of the Guinness Book of Records and most tomes recording the world’s heaviest building,now ask yourself exactly why that is?Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:55 pmnoChroy Changvarite wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:43 pmWhat about Machu Picchu in Peru built on top of a mountain that takes three or four days to trek to?
The Great Pyramid of Giza is still the heaviest building on the Planet Earth by quite some distance,built on sand 5,000 years ago we don’t have the technology to build to the same tolerances even today!
Definitely something not quite adding up here Ancient Aliens is the only rational explanation!
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Quite simply they were left as a message to show exactly that,that advanced civilisations with far more advanced technology than ours existed not just thousands but millions of years ago on Planet Earth.pedros wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:58 pmI dunno, maybe the fact that people as as species actually exist and have a long track record of actually existing. As a species there's a way long history of doing mad shit, either to control nature or just build cool stuff, as well as simply learning to survive in bitch hard places.Chroy Changvarite wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:23 pmHow is your theory any better or any different from the theory of an advanced ancient culture that has disappeared somehow and somewhere,they are both the same just theories?pedros wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:10 pmconstruction probably started soon after c. 16 BC, when Baalbek became a Roman colony known as Colonia Julia Augusta Felix Heliopolitana. It was largely completed by AD 60 as evidenced by a graffito located on one of the topmost column drums.Chroy Changvarite wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:56 pm
At Baalbek,Lebanon or ancient Heliopolis as posted above the smallest three of six massive worked stone blocks are part of a podium wall in the Roman complex of the Temple of Jupiter Baal (Heliopolitan Zeus) on Tal Baalbek,they are known as the “Trilithon”.
Each of these is estimated at about 830-880 tons are you suggesting that men with woven ropes “walked” them into place also?
The original method of construction remains an archeological mystery.So it took 70 years or so to build- pretty slow going for aliens. Maybe an average length of time to utilise a huge slave force from local conquered territories
This quarry was slightly higher than the temple complex, so no lifting was required to move the stones.
Individual Roman cranes were not capable of lifting stones in the 60 to 100 tonne range, but a special one could have been built only for this temple.No lifting aliens needed
The large stones may have probably been rolled into position along temporary earthen banks from the quarry or multiple cranes may have been used in combination, or they might have alternated sides a little at a time, filling in supports underneath each time.
Continued archaeological investigations have been hindered by civil unrest in the region.
EDIT: If 12 or so 'primitive' Polynesians can move a 14 ton rock, a much more technologically advanced culture like the Romans, with huge reserves of manpower and materials, backed up with knowledge pinched from the Greeks, whom had pilfered tricks from the ancient Egyptians, could probably have come up with a way of moving something 60x heavier. Not saying it was easy, but a few generations of enslaved elbow grease...Interesting theories, but it was obviously pyramid building aliens, who had taken a 2500 year long tea break after building Giza, nipped of to the pub for a 1000 year lunchtime pint and reappeared in 10th century Cambodia too pissed up to bother making things on the previous scale, but still doing alien things.
Why should we believe you when for thousands of years experts have struggled to explain such anomalies,let’s not even get started on OOPAs/Out-Of-Place-Artifacts…
Yet!
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
I'm going with ancient alien civilisations that were hella advanced, but left no trace and taught people how to build stupid pyramids= impossible, loads of time and effort of human slaves and animals to build stupid pyramids= plausible.
I remember doing a project on Erik von Daniken (Chariot of the Gods et al) when i was in the third year. What goes around ...
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Graeme Hancock is an interesting guy! Many cultures (including the Maori) have stories about red headed giants that taught them things.
I don't have any theories on the pyramids or Angkor Wat that I'm' ready to share on 440.com
https://stolenhistory.net/ is a fascinating website with fantastic resources but is probably too out there for 99% of people.
I don't have any theories on the pyramids or Angkor Wat that I'm' ready to share on 440.com
https://stolenhistory.net/ is a fascinating website with fantastic resources but is probably too out there for 99% of people.
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