Cambodia naval base set to undergo China-led expansion
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"As a non-nuclear-weapon state, Australia does not – and will not – seek to acquire nuclear weapons"
@Post by Anthony's Wiener » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:29 am
you say: "As a non-nuclear-weapon state, Australia does not – and will not – seek to acquire nuclear weapons"
As the Buddhist say: Nothing is forever and that can change anytime.
Why than does Australia need those nuke subs , part of the AUKUS deal ? Apart of that the US is holding quite a large military contingency in Australia and i am certain that some US Nukes will ready to be used when the moment comes. Perhaps Australia is lucky enough not to be in a situation like Germany where german fighter planes have to deliver US Nukes of which 20 are stored in "Buechel" German Airforce Base to you know where. https://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe ... 38614.html
you say: "As a non-nuclear-weapon state, Australia does not – and will not – seek to acquire nuclear weapons"
As the Buddhist say: Nothing is forever and that can change anytime.
Why than does Australia need those nuke subs , part of the AUKUS deal ? Apart of that the US is holding quite a large military contingency in Australia and i am certain that some US Nukes will ready to be used when the moment comes. Perhaps Australia is lucky enough not to be in a situation like Germany where german fighter planes have to deliver US Nukes of which 20 are stored in "Buechel" German Airforce Base to you know where. https://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe ... 38614.html
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Cambodia reveals air defense plans near China-funded naval base
PHNOM PENH -- The Cambodian government disclosed plans last week to develop an air defense center and expand a radar system at Ream National Park near its naval base in Sihanoukville province.
For several years, the U.S. government has warned that the Ream naval base is secretly being developed to become China's second overseas military base and first in the Indo-Pacific region. While the new plans may simply indicate Cambodia's desire to bolster its weak military infrastructure, experts say the developments would also enhance surveillance-gathering capabilities and strengthen Ream's strategic value for China.
The government's disclosure revealed that Prime Minister Hun Sen allocated 157 hectares to the Ministry of National Defense on Sept. 15, 2022 to develop an "air defense command and general headquarters." An additional 30 hectares were granted for a "naval radar system."
A defense ministry spokesperson said there would be no Chinese funding, support or presence at these facilities.
"Having a facility that large, that close by, is a major expansion of the military footprint [at Ream]," said Harrison Pretat, associate director at the Washington-based Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative.
The existing marina at Ream naval base is around 60 hectares. An air defense system would likely include surface-to-air missiles and hardened shelters, Pretat said.
China and Cambodia have an increasingly close military relationship. Earlier this month, the two nations held joint-naval exercises for the first time in Cambodian waters. In a November 2022 report, the U.S. Department of Defense warned that China "is very likely already considering and planning for additional military logistics facilities to support naval, air and ground forces projection," in Cambodia and other nations.
The development of additional bases would involve "obfuscating the scale and scope of PRC political and military interests," the report added.
"We urge Cambodia to closely examine the agreements its defense officials have made with Beijing to ensure the PRC will not be allowed presence or sensitive technology at the base that undermine Cambodia's sovereignty and affect regional stability," said U.S. embassy spokesperson Stephanie Arzate.
China opened its first overseas military base in the east African nation of Djibouti in 2017.
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PHNOM PENH -- The Cambodian government disclosed plans last week to develop an air defense center and expand a radar system at Ream National Park near its naval base in Sihanoukville province.
For several years, the U.S. government has warned that the Ream naval base is secretly being developed to become China's second overseas military base and first in the Indo-Pacific region. While the new plans may simply indicate Cambodia's desire to bolster its weak military infrastructure, experts say the developments would also enhance surveillance-gathering capabilities and strengthen Ream's strategic value for China.
The government's disclosure revealed that Prime Minister Hun Sen allocated 157 hectares to the Ministry of National Defense on Sept. 15, 2022 to develop an "air defense command and general headquarters." An additional 30 hectares were granted for a "naval radar system."
A defense ministry spokesperson said there would be no Chinese funding, support or presence at these facilities.
"Having a facility that large, that close by, is a major expansion of the military footprint [at Ream]," said Harrison Pretat, associate director at the Washington-based Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative.
The existing marina at Ream naval base is around 60 hectares. An air defense system would likely include surface-to-air missiles and hardened shelters, Pretat said.
China and Cambodia have an increasingly close military relationship. Earlier this month, the two nations held joint-naval exercises for the first time in Cambodian waters. In a November 2022 report, the U.S. Department of Defense warned that China "is very likely already considering and planning for additional military logistics facilities to support naval, air and ground forces projection," in Cambodia and other nations.
The development of additional bases would involve "obfuscating the scale and scope of PRC political and military interests," the report added.
"We urge Cambodia to closely examine the agreements its defense officials have made with Beijing to ensure the PRC will not be allowed presence or sensitive technology at the base that undermine Cambodia's sovereignty and affect regional stability," said U.S. embassy spokesperson Stephanie Arzate.
China opened its first overseas military base in the east African nation of Djibouti in 2017.
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I'm confused.Bong Burgundy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:21 amCambodia reveals air defense plans near China-funded naval base
A defense ministry spokesperson said there would be no Chinese funding, support or presence at these facilities.
I assume the first statement is from the US?
Seriously, the US warning about one sovereign state assisting another sovereign state, thousands of miles from America, in a military manner? And the consequences thereof?
Monty Pythonesque.
USA doesn't want allies. It wants vassal statesdrazilovich wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:47 amI'm confused.Bong Burgundy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:21 amCambodia reveals air defense plans near China-funded naval base
A defense ministry spokesperson said there would be no Chinese funding, support or presence at these facilities.
I assume the first statement is from the US?
Seriously, the US warning about one sovereign state assisting another sovereign state, thousands of miles from America, in a military manner? And the consequences thereof?
Monty Pythonesque.
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China’s defence ties with Cambodia raise red flags for Vietnam
It has been over 40 years since Vietnamese military forces rolled into Cambodia and toppled the brutal Pol Pot regime. One of the drivers that led Vietnam to conduct a military campaign against Cambodia was its sense of strategic vulnerability, sandwiched between China to the north and the China-backed Cambodian regime to the south.
A declassified CIA document from February 1983 suggests that China encouraged the Pol Pot regime ‘in its hostility toward Vietnam’ in the years leading up to the invasion. During this time, the Khmer Rouge carried out raids in southern Vietnam while receiving weapons from China, including T-54 and T-63 tanks. Pol Pot’s refusal to engage diplomatically with Vietnam to settle their border disputes prompted the Vietnamese to launch a large-scale invasion of Cambodia in 1978.
Today, Vietnam is once again concerned about China’s growing defence ties with Cambodia. Hanoi fears that China is using Cambodia as a tool to pressure Vietnam on its southern border.
The South China Sea is a source of ongoing contention between Vietnam and China. Territorial disputes have previously led to bloody clashes with the Chinese navy, as demonstrated in the 1988 incident at Johnson South Reef.
China has consistently challenged Vietnam’s attempts to extract resources from within its exclusive economic zone (EEZ) in the South China Sea. On several occasions, China has successfully applied pressure on Vietnam to halt the development of oil fields within its EEZ. Vietnam’s fishermen have been attacked, harassed and robbed by Chinese Coast Guard vessels.
The presence of Chinese military facilities in the South China Sea further impairs Vietnam’s ability to access resources within its EEZ. These facilities enable Chinese naval assets to maintain a consistent presence throughout the South China Sea, disrupting the activities of regional states, including Vietnam.
Cambodia’s growing defence relations with China have affected Vietnam’s strategic calculus. Since Cambodia’s defence relations with the United States went awry in 2010, China has stepped in to fill the void. In that same year, Beijing supplied trucks and uniforms to Cambodia.
In recent years, China has also assisted Cambodia in developing its naval capabilities. This includes infrastructure development at Cambodia’s Ream Naval Base, which faces the Gulf of Thailand and is just 30 kilometres from the Vietnamese island of Phu Quoc. The deepening of the water around Ream Naval Base will enable larger warships, including those from China, to dock and operate in the area.
These recent developments around the naval base are a security concern for Vietnam. According to a Vietnamese official, there has been a sudden increase in Chinese personnel, equipment and materials being moved into the base since early April 2023.
Of even greater concern is the development of radar and surveillance capabilities near the Ream Naval Base. A government document shared by Cambodian officials with this article’s author details the allocation of about 187 hectares of land, including parts of Ream National Park, to the Cambodian Ministry of National Defence. Most of the land is assigned to the Royal Cambodian Armed Forces Air Defence Unit, while the rest has been designated for a naval radar system.
Improvements in Cambodian naval and air defence and surveillance capabilities around Ream Naval Base should not come as a surprise. Cambodian officials have previously pointed out the navy’s lack of communication and surveillance capabilities and the need to enhance the country’s air defence.
Developing the new defence facilities in Ream National Park would not involve Chinese presence or funding. Still, Vietnam is worried about a lack of transparency regarding Cambodia’s current construction activities at Ream Naval Base, worsened by the potential development of air defence facilities in the nearby national park.
According to the same Vietnamese official, Cambodia does not share details on the ongoing construction at Ream Naval Base with Vietnam, despite the countries having good relations. The official Cambodian government stance is that it would not allow any foreign military base to operate within Cambodia.
Despite this assurance from Cambodia, Vietnam’s officials perceive the development of air defence facilities in Ream National Park as a security concern, especially if China manages them. Any air surveillance radar would enable Chinese military personnel to track the movement of Vietnamese aircraft movement in southern Vietnam. Coupled with the possibility that China could operate its naval vessels from Ream Naval Base and target Vietnam’s interests, Beijing could ultimately threaten Vietnam from both the north and the south.
The debates surrounding China’s use of Ream Naval Base and nearby air defence facilities remain speculative. Once all the construction works are completed, a clearer picture will develop. Until then, Vietnam will continue to monitor the growing Cambodia–China defence relationship with wariness.
Abdul Rahman Yaacob is a PhD candidate at the National Security College, the Australian National University.
Some information for this article is drawn from correspondences and interviews with Cambodian and Vietnamese defence officials.
https://www.eastasiaforum.org/2023/05/0 ... r-vietnam/
It has been over 40 years since Vietnamese military forces rolled into Cambodia and toppled the brutal Pol Pot regime. One of the drivers that led Vietnam to conduct a military campaign against Cambodia was its sense of strategic vulnerability, sandwiched between China to the north and the China-backed Cambodian regime to the south.
A declassified CIA document from February 1983 suggests that China encouraged the Pol Pot regime ‘in its hostility toward Vietnam’ in the years leading up to the invasion. During this time, the Khmer Rouge carried out raids in southern Vietnam while receiving weapons from China, including T-54 and T-63 tanks. Pol Pot’s refusal to engage diplomatically with Vietnam to settle their border disputes prompted the Vietnamese to launch a large-scale invasion of Cambodia in 1978.
Today, Vietnam is once again concerned about China’s growing defence ties with Cambodia. Hanoi fears that China is using Cambodia as a tool to pressure Vietnam on its southern border.
The South China Sea is a source of ongoing contention between Vietnam and China. Territorial disputes have previously led to bloody clashes with the Chinese navy, as demonstrated in the 1988 incident at Johnson South Reef.
China has consistently challenged Vietnam’s attempts to extract resources from within its exclusive economic zone (EEZ) in the South China Sea. On several occasions, China has successfully applied pressure on Vietnam to halt the development of oil fields within its EEZ. Vietnam’s fishermen have been attacked, harassed and robbed by Chinese Coast Guard vessels.
The presence of Chinese military facilities in the South China Sea further impairs Vietnam’s ability to access resources within its EEZ. These facilities enable Chinese naval assets to maintain a consistent presence throughout the South China Sea, disrupting the activities of regional states, including Vietnam.
Cambodia’s growing defence relations with China have affected Vietnam’s strategic calculus. Since Cambodia’s defence relations with the United States went awry in 2010, China has stepped in to fill the void. In that same year, Beijing supplied trucks and uniforms to Cambodia.
In recent years, China has also assisted Cambodia in developing its naval capabilities. This includes infrastructure development at Cambodia’s Ream Naval Base, which faces the Gulf of Thailand and is just 30 kilometres from the Vietnamese island of Phu Quoc. The deepening of the water around Ream Naval Base will enable larger warships, including those from China, to dock and operate in the area.
These recent developments around the naval base are a security concern for Vietnam. According to a Vietnamese official, there has been a sudden increase in Chinese personnel, equipment and materials being moved into the base since early April 2023.
Of even greater concern is the development of radar and surveillance capabilities near the Ream Naval Base. A government document shared by Cambodian officials with this article’s author details the allocation of about 187 hectares of land, including parts of Ream National Park, to the Cambodian Ministry of National Defence. Most of the land is assigned to the Royal Cambodian Armed Forces Air Defence Unit, while the rest has been designated for a naval radar system.
Improvements in Cambodian naval and air defence and surveillance capabilities around Ream Naval Base should not come as a surprise. Cambodian officials have previously pointed out the navy’s lack of communication and surveillance capabilities and the need to enhance the country’s air defence.
Developing the new defence facilities in Ream National Park would not involve Chinese presence or funding. Still, Vietnam is worried about a lack of transparency regarding Cambodia’s current construction activities at Ream Naval Base, worsened by the potential development of air defence facilities in the nearby national park.
According to the same Vietnamese official, Cambodia does not share details on the ongoing construction at Ream Naval Base with Vietnam, despite the countries having good relations. The official Cambodian government stance is that it would not allow any foreign military base to operate within Cambodia.
Despite this assurance from Cambodia, Vietnam’s officials perceive the development of air defence facilities in Ream National Park as a security concern, especially if China manages them. Any air surveillance radar would enable Chinese military personnel to track the movement of Vietnamese aircraft movement in southern Vietnam. Coupled with the possibility that China could operate its naval vessels from Ream Naval Base and target Vietnam’s interests, Beijing could ultimately threaten Vietnam from both the north and the south.
The debates surrounding China’s use of Ream Naval Base and nearby air defence facilities remain speculative. Once all the construction works are completed, a clearer picture will develop. Until then, Vietnam will continue to monitor the growing Cambodia–China defence relationship with wariness.
Abdul Rahman Yaacob is a PhD candidate at the National Security College, the Australian National University.
Some information for this article is drawn from correspondences and interviews with Cambodian and Vietnamese defence officials.
https://www.eastasiaforum.org/2023/05/0 ... r-vietnam/
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Chinese warships at Cambodian base for months, CSIS analysis shows
Commander of Ream base says vessels deployed to train Cambodian navy for new ships
Two People's Liberation Army Navy corvettes are docked at Cambodia's Ream Naval Base on April 7. (CSIS)
SHAUN TURTON, Nikkei staff writer, and BOPHA PHORN, Nikkei contributing writer
April 18, 2024 23:00 JST
SYDNEY -- Two Chinese warships have been present at Cambodia's Ream Naval Base for much of the past five months, satellite images show, raising questions about the permanency of China's military presence at the facility.
China has backed a major expansion at the site on the Gulf of Thailand and was the first to send warships late last year to a new pier. Former Cambodian Defense Minister Tea Banh visited the vessels on Dec. 3 along with China's ambassador to Phnom Penh.
Radio Free Asia reported in mid-January that the ships had departed after being docked for several weeks. Nikkei Asia obtained a photo that showed the two vessels, one of which was identified as the People's Liberation Army Navy corvette Wenshan, back at the deep-draft pier on March 20.
But an analysis of satellite imagery by the Center for Strategic and International Studies showed that, except for some brief absences, the PLAN corvettes had enjoyed "extended and exclusive" access to Ream over the past four and a half months.
"The PLAN ships are visible docked at Ream's new pier in 93 percent (85 of 91) of dates with clear imagery available since the ships initially docked there on December 3," CSIS, a Washington-based think tank, wrote in an analysis released on Thursday. "The pier was only seen empty for two brief periods from January 15-18 and March 29-30."
During his visit, Banh, who handed the ministerial post to his son Tea Seiha last year but has remained heavily involved in defense matters, posted photos of the inspection on Facebook, writing that the vessels were there for training the Cambodian navy.
A Jiangdao-class corvette from the Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy in Hong Kong, in this file photo from November 2023. Two Chinese corvettes have been an a Cambodian naval base for an extended period, according to satellite images. \
As far back as 2016, Cambodia has expressed interest in acquiring two warships from China. In a 2022 speech, Banh said the modernization of Ream would see Cambodia tackle more "complicated technical tasks" including operating "modern ships" equipped with missiles, which would require new training and skills.
Asked via message whether the Chinese contingent was training Cambodia's navy to take over responsibility for new ships, base commander Mey Dina said "yes" but did not answer further questions about how long it would take or what vessels would be acquired.
"Nothing is negative as you think," he wrote, adding, "I've already answered all these questions. Thanks."
The prolonged presence adds to concerns long expressed by Washington that Ream would be used to host Chinese military assets. Beijing has funded upgrades at the site and dredging of the surrounding bay, while facilities previously built by the U.S. were knocked down and the headquarters for cooperation with neighboring Vietnam was moved outside the base.
A banner displayed during the June 2022 groundbreaking ceremony for the China-backed development promotes the construction of a pier and dry dock at the southern end of the base, as well as upgrades to a maintenance workshop.
But there has been little public information about work in the north of the site, including the deep-draft pier, various buildings and what CSIS said appeared to be living quarters surrounding four regulation-size basketball courts. The Wall Street Journal in 2019 reported that Cambodia had signed a secret pact with China that would give the latter exclusive rights to a portion of the 87-hectare base.
Cambodia's former prime minister Hun Sen repeatedly denied reports there were plans to let China use Ream as a base, weighing in again this month to call the claims "slanderous." Hun Sen, who is now leader of the ruling party and Senate president, also rejected reports that a China-funded canal project could be used for military purposes.
His son, Hun Manet, who was installed as prime minister last August, reiterated in January there would be no foreign military bases in the country as it was forbidden by Cambodia's constitution.
The Royal Cambodian Navy's coastal fleet currently includes four Soviet-era Stenka patrol boats, two of which are unseaworthy, four PC42 Chinese-built patrol boats and a few more small vessels.
One former member of the diplomatic community, who has deep knowledge of developments at Ream in recent years, said operating a larger class of vessel would be a "quantum leap" for Cambodian sailors, who would require intense training.
"It's exactly what you would expect, getting an early start on the knowledge and skills transfer needed to operate warships as everything for the Cambodians is going to be new -- the engine, the communications and the weapons," the individual said.
The arrangement also could provide cover for an ongoing presence at the site, the individual said.
CSIS noted no other ships, including Cambodian vessels, had used the new pier, and a recent visit by two Japanese destroyers was routed to Sihanoukville Autonomous Port rather than Ream.
"If you're coming for a visit or an exercise, you don't stay for five months," said Gregory Poling, director of the Southeast Asia Program and Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative at CSIS. "Which means that this is either a rotational deployment or a permanent deployment.
"It means that there are presumably Chinese personnel who have been living on the base for the last five months, and that's noteworthy particularly because the Cambodians continue to insist that this isn't a Chinese base, and anybody can use it. And yet, as far as we can tell, only one person is using it."
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Commander of Ream base says vessels deployed to train Cambodian navy for new ships
Two People's Liberation Army Navy corvettes are docked at Cambodia's Ream Naval Base on April 7. (CSIS)
SHAUN TURTON, Nikkei staff writer, and BOPHA PHORN, Nikkei contributing writer
April 18, 2024 23:00 JST
SYDNEY -- Two Chinese warships have been present at Cambodia's Ream Naval Base for much of the past five months, satellite images show, raising questions about the permanency of China's military presence at the facility.
China has backed a major expansion at the site on the Gulf of Thailand and was the first to send warships late last year to a new pier. Former Cambodian Defense Minister Tea Banh visited the vessels on Dec. 3 along with China's ambassador to Phnom Penh.
Radio Free Asia reported in mid-January that the ships had departed after being docked for several weeks. Nikkei Asia obtained a photo that showed the two vessels, one of which was identified as the People's Liberation Army Navy corvette Wenshan, back at the deep-draft pier on March 20.
But an analysis of satellite imagery by the Center for Strategic and International Studies showed that, except for some brief absences, the PLAN corvettes had enjoyed "extended and exclusive" access to Ream over the past four and a half months.
"The PLAN ships are visible docked at Ream's new pier in 93 percent (85 of 91) of dates with clear imagery available since the ships initially docked there on December 3," CSIS, a Washington-based think tank, wrote in an analysis released on Thursday. "The pier was only seen empty for two brief periods from January 15-18 and March 29-30."
During his visit, Banh, who handed the ministerial post to his son Tea Seiha last year but has remained heavily involved in defense matters, posted photos of the inspection on Facebook, writing that the vessels were there for training the Cambodian navy.
A Jiangdao-class corvette from the Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy in Hong Kong, in this file photo from November 2023. Two Chinese corvettes have been an a Cambodian naval base for an extended period, according to satellite images. \
As far back as 2016, Cambodia has expressed interest in acquiring two warships from China. In a 2022 speech, Banh said the modernization of Ream would see Cambodia tackle more "complicated technical tasks" including operating "modern ships" equipped with missiles, which would require new training and skills.
Asked via message whether the Chinese contingent was training Cambodia's navy to take over responsibility for new ships, base commander Mey Dina said "yes" but did not answer further questions about how long it would take or what vessels would be acquired.
"Nothing is negative as you think," he wrote, adding, "I've already answered all these questions. Thanks."
The prolonged presence adds to concerns long expressed by Washington that Ream would be used to host Chinese military assets. Beijing has funded upgrades at the site and dredging of the surrounding bay, while facilities previously built by the U.S. were knocked down and the headquarters for cooperation with neighboring Vietnam was moved outside the base.
A banner displayed during the June 2022 groundbreaking ceremony for the China-backed development promotes the construction of a pier and dry dock at the southern end of the base, as well as upgrades to a maintenance workshop.
But there has been little public information about work in the north of the site, including the deep-draft pier, various buildings and what CSIS said appeared to be living quarters surrounding four regulation-size basketball courts. The Wall Street Journal in 2019 reported that Cambodia had signed a secret pact with China that would give the latter exclusive rights to a portion of the 87-hectare base.
Cambodia's former prime minister Hun Sen repeatedly denied reports there were plans to let China use Ream as a base, weighing in again this month to call the claims "slanderous." Hun Sen, who is now leader of the ruling party and Senate president, also rejected reports that a China-funded canal project could be used for military purposes.
His son, Hun Manet, who was installed as prime minister last August, reiterated in January there would be no foreign military bases in the country as it was forbidden by Cambodia's constitution.
The Royal Cambodian Navy's coastal fleet currently includes four Soviet-era Stenka patrol boats, two of which are unseaworthy, four PC42 Chinese-built patrol boats and a few more small vessels.
One former member of the diplomatic community, who has deep knowledge of developments at Ream in recent years, said operating a larger class of vessel would be a "quantum leap" for Cambodian sailors, who would require intense training.
"It's exactly what you would expect, getting an early start on the knowledge and skills transfer needed to operate warships as everything for the Cambodians is going to be new -- the engine, the communications and the weapons," the individual said.
The arrangement also could provide cover for an ongoing presence at the site, the individual said.
CSIS noted no other ships, including Cambodian vessels, had used the new pier, and a recent visit by two Japanese destroyers was routed to Sihanoukville Autonomous Port rather than Ream.
"If you're coming for a visit or an exercise, you don't stay for five months," said Gregory Poling, director of the Southeast Asia Program and Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative at CSIS. "Which means that this is either a rotational deployment or a permanent deployment.
"It means that there are presumably Chinese personnel who have been living on the base for the last five months, and that's noteworthy particularly because the Cambodians continue to insist that this isn't a Chinese base, and anybody can use it. And yet, as far as we can tell, only one person is using it."
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Intern ... ysis-shows
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Does a rather strong Indian Currey rate as a Nuclear weapon ????
I know this leaves some rather serious exit wounds.
If not - All we have is a few fire crackers to scare the crows away from the crops.
No, we do not possess aggressive weapons, what we possess is for show and bluff.
( Non existent in real life )
If we were directly attacked, we would fail within the first hour of aggression.
I refuse to go out with nothing more than a whimper followed by a small farting sound and a shit stain on my bed sheets..
Just thought I'd share that with you.
Just thought I'd share that with you.
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