Refillable cooking gas canisters...
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Refillable cooking gas canisters...
You know the the ones I mean , small , portable used all over SE Asia and as dangerous as.
I bought a small camp stove that uses them - for emergency purposes only- and as I am about to hit the central highlands and the weather has been shit, I thought it wise to carry a few pot noodle type things, just in case.
Anyway, my question as I have never used before. Is how much cooking time do you get from an average refilled canister?
I bought a small camp stove that uses them - for emergency purposes only- and as I am about to hit the central highlands and the weather has been shit, I thought it wise to carry a few pot noodle type things, just in case.
Anyway, my question as I have never used before. Is how much cooking time do you get from an average refilled canister?
k440, something to do when you're pissed.
No idea how long but it's longer than you'd think.
The only reason they explode is when someone uses a pot too big and this pushes the flame and heat outwards and heats up the can. Also the cookers are often old so don't have proper closing lids.
The only reason they explode is when someone uses a pot too big and this pushes the flame and heat outwards and heats up the can. Also the cookers are often old so don't have proper closing lids.
pew, pew, pew, pew!
Maybe that's the case in your perfect world, but I've seen these explode in a shopping bag of a lady buying stuff in the market, tugged in between a cabbage and some fruits so to say, more than once. Those cans are very dangerous since no one gives a f*ck about safety while using them, until one explodes in their face (like my neighbor's wife). OP, if you want to bring some, buy a few decent (preferably new) ones and have those refilled every time, don't exchange your new ones for the crappy ones you don't know and are on display at the refilling placeYaTingPom wrote:No idea how long but it's longer than you'd think.
The only reason they explode is when someone uses a pot too big and this pushes the flame and heat outwards and heats up the can. Also the cookers are often old so don't have proper closing lids.
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@Kachang, good idea but please excuse my ignorance. Where does one buy the canisters new? I have only seen the rusty refillables . And does every place that sells the refillables also do the refilling? I assumed it was like milk bottles in the UK , you left yer empties on the door step and the man from the co op replaced them with newly filled bottles.
I am being serious, I have no idea how the system works. And does it work the same way region wide? I am in Central Vietnam at the moment.
I am being serious, I have no idea how the system works. And does it work the same way region wide? I am in Central Vietnam at the moment.
k440, something to do when you're pissed.
I've seen them @ O' Russei market. They will do the refilling, but it'll take a while. Make sure your bottle is marked, drop it off for a refill, do your shopping and come back and collect. If you tell them you want them to refill yours, they will do so... that's how I did it until one exploded in the face of my neighbor's wife. Now I use a brand new 6 KG bottle from Thailand I brought in my suitcase. But that one's hard to bring up the mountain.horace wrote:@Kachang, good idea but please excuse my ignorance. Where does one buy the canisters new? I have only seen the rusty refillables . And does every place that sells the refillables also do the refilling? I assumed it was like milk bottles in the UK , you left yer empties on the door step and the man from the co op replaced them with newly filled bottles.
I am being serious, I have no idea how the system works. And does it work the same way region wide? I am in Central Vietnam at the moment.
I am in Rattanakiri.
Obviously that can was overheated by the fruit.
And anyway. That must have been one of the rare occasions it self combusted.
Generally they explode when not used correctly.
Its not about a perfect world. Where did I state that?
And anyway. That must have been one of the rare occasions it self combusted.
Generally they explode when not used correctly.
Its not about a perfect world. Where did I state that?
pew, pew, pew, pew!
No problem, keep your faith in rusty old canisters.YaTingPom wrote:Obviously that can was overheated by the fruit.
And anyway. That must have been one of the rare occasions it self combusted.
Generally they explode when not used correctly.
Its not about a perfect world. Where did I state that?
I've lost it.
Check the fuel consumption of your stove. From memory the type you mention is about 150 g/hr, and cartridges are about 220g, so it should last around 1.5 hours on full. The heat output is around 1.9KW and you should be able to boil a litre of water in under 6 minutes. Of course climatic conditions will affect time.horace wrote: Anyway, my question as I have never used before. Is how much cooking time do you get from an average refilled canister?
BTW here's an instruction leaflet for the type of stove I was referring to https://www.snowys.com.au/content/files ... s_crop.pdf
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Buy brand new cannisters and get them refilled, not exchanged. A completely full one last apprx 3 days. Cooking time aprox 3 - 4 hours on a low and sometimes just boiling flame. If you cook with them up full, not long at all. Slow pot roasts are how I've cooked with them - 3 or 4 hours if used like that with the occasional boiling of small amounts of water. If it's just boiling water for coffee for one, about 2 days.horace wrote:You know the the ones I mean , small , portable used all over SE Asia and as dangerous as.
I bought a small camp stove that uses them - for emergency purposes only- and as I am about to hit the central highlands and the weather has been shit, I thought it wise to carry a few pot noodle type things, just in case.
Anyway, my question as I have never used before. Is how much cooking time do you get from an average refilled canister?
You can buy them from some supermarkets here or shops that sell gas stoves, cookers etc. There are small places around that refill them. Just look for the large orange etc gas cylinder with what looks like a stainless metal box attached sitting on the floor. I'm fairly sure it would be the same in Vietnam.
Make sure they refill them properly. If the can is full, you shouldn't be able to feel any liquid shaking around in it.
Did you take that road from Nha Trang to Da Lat?
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Cheers for the advice on the canisters. As for the road from Nha Trang to Dalat I was advised by some local cycle guys not to as the rains had washed a lot of it away. The weather here has really been terrible,apparently the worst wet season ever, been stuck in a Quy Nhon for a week now because of the rain and no end in sight.
k440, something to do when you're pissed.
I never think about how many times but simple cooking 4-6 meals i would say. I mean, ofc it depends on how long time its takes to cook.
When it comes to the burner they should have a saftey-valve that shuts of the gas if the pressure goes to high. I personaly did not buy the cheapest 5$ cooker as i do think, or at least hope, that i got better quality with the one from a japanese company.
I searches about this and i could only find one story when it exploded during cooking. But it was the burner, and that one got banned. Beside that i can only read about accidents when the wrong type of gas is used. But ive not heard anything about that beein the case here in Cambodia. But even here the saftey-valve should take care of that as its the higher pressure that caused the accidents. So the gas should have been shut of by the burner.
I used refilled canisters for a long time. What i do is paying 50cent extra for a brand new canister from the gas-shop were i refill them once they start geting rusty. And they can keep the old one to sell to someone else (as they are sold in the markets, rusty and refilled).
When it comes to the burner they should have a saftey-valve that shuts of the gas if the pressure goes to high. I personaly did not buy the cheapest 5$ cooker as i do think, or at least hope, that i got better quality with the one from a japanese company.
I searches about this and i could only find one story when it exploded during cooking. But it was the burner, and that one got banned. Beside that i can only read about accidents when the wrong type of gas is used. But ive not heard anything about that beein the case here in Cambodia. But even here the saftey-valve should take care of that as its the higher pressure that caused the accidents. So the gas should have been shut of by the burner.
I used refilled canisters for a long time. What i do is paying 50cent extra for a brand new canister from the gas-shop were i refill them once they start geting rusty. And they can keep the old one to sell to someone else (as they are sold in the markets, rusty and refilled).
when my canisters now get rusty I buy new ones for $1 at the same place that refills them (they sell all types of gas kit, kitchen utensils etc) for 2000Reil.... but that's it over filled from new as it feels heavier than the new ones, they will also do a 1500r refill.. which feels more like the original weight. (in SHV no PP)
I just give the rusty ones back to the store.
I just give the rusty ones back to the store.
Check out this thread:http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... r&start=12Albro wrote: I searches about this and i could only find one story when it exploded during cooking. But it was the burner, and that one got banned. Beside that i can only read about accidents when the wrong type of gas is used. But ive not heard anything about that beein the case here in Cambodia. But even here the saftey-valve should take care of that as its the higher pressure that caused the accidents. So the gas should have been shut of by the burner.
And this thread on TOF Gas Canister at Cam's Burrito Cart on Street 172 Explodes, Injuring the Owner (Lisha)
Heres a quote from TOF re gas canister safety
Kuroneko wrote:Exactly right - I think the maximum recommended pot diameter is 200mm. Cartridges equipped with countersunk release vents (CRV)are the best bet in these stoves as when they overheat they don't explode, they still burn but the gas is released in a controlled manner (see video below). I don't know if they are available here though. Refilled old style cartridges go for around 1100 riel which makes them a very attractive proposition, but you never know how many times they have been refilled or been around.Duncan wrote:Investigations show that the most problems are caused by a overlarge cooking container placed on top, which spreads the gas flame outwards , and over the top of the gas container fuel supply.
http://wckp.buykorea.org/pav/BKKBPA032C ... SN=3000001
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