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Looking for a school recomendation for middle class Khmer kid beginning grade 1.
The parents are locals and make around 800-900$ a month together so i guess it should be something below 200$ a month.
Honestly I have no clue regarding what is available in Phnom Penh for that budget but they asked me if I could check with some foreign teachers for them what is the best bang for their bucks.
If you have any suggestions it is much appreciated.
The parents are locals and make around 800-900$ a month together so i guess it should be something below 200$ a month.
Honestly I have no clue regarding what is available in Phnom Penh for that budget but they asked me if I could check with some foreign teachers for them what is the best bang for their bucks.
If you have any suggestions it is much appreciated.
What's the rough location? Cost is one thing, but there are some decent schools in each Khan that probably make more sense on the daily commute/drop off/pick up schedule, etc.
Meum est propositum in taberna mori,
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
Beltei is spread out all over the town. Tuition fees (Khmer + English) would be around USD 100/month, add pocket money to that, add (Khmer school) bus transportation and some more small stuff.jackrossi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:09 pmLooking for a school recomendation for middle class Khmer kid beginning grade 1.
The parents are locals and make around 800-900$ a month together so i guess it should be something below 200$ a month.
Honestly I have no clue regarding what is available in Phnom Penh for that budget but they asked me if I could check with some foreign teachers for them what is the best bang for their bucks.
If you have any suggestions it is much appreciated.
I am not unhappy about Beltie. The leadership seems to be genuinely interested to properly educate the kids.
BELTEI is about $500 for half a year for Grade 1. Currently, they're doing 3 days at school and 3 days online. The school buses aren't running at the moment, what with covid and affording wages. The semester started in September, but it's no prob for a kid joining now. I think BELTEI is perfectly fine as a modest private school. My knowledge comes from starting a kid in Grade 3 last week, but I don't think Grade 1 would be any different.v12 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:59 pmBeltei is spread out all over the town. Tuition fees (Khmer + English) would be around USD 100/month, add pocket money to that, add (Khmer school) bus transportation and some more small stuff.jackrossi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:09 pmLooking for a school recomendation for middle class Khmer kid beginning grade 1.
The parents are locals and make around 800-900$ a month together so i guess it should be something below 200$ a month.
Honestly I have no clue regarding what is available in Phnom Penh for that budget but they asked me if I could check with some foreign teachers for them what is the best bang for their bucks.
If you have any suggestions it is much appreciated.
I am not unhappy about Beltie. The leadership seems to be genuinely interested to properly educate the kids.
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what about hiring an expat with the appropriate knowledge in exchange for room and board?jackrossi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:09 pmLooking for a school recomendation for middle class Khmer kid beginning grade 1.
The parents are locals and make around 800-900$ a month together so i guess it should be something below 200$ a month.
Honestly I have no clue regarding what is available in Phnom Penh for that budget but they asked me if I could check with some foreign teachers for them what is the best bang for their bucks.
If you have any suggestions it is much appreciated.
permission+denied wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:15 amwhat about hiring an expat with the appropriate knowledge in exchange for room and board?jackrossi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:09 pmLooking for a school recomendation for middle class Khmer kid beginning grade 1.
The parents are locals and make around 800-900$ a month together so i guess it should be something below 200$ a month.
Honestly I have no clue regarding what is available in Phnom Penh for that budget but they asked me if I could check with some foreign teachers for them what is the best bang for their bucks.
If you have any suggestions it is much appreciated.
Are you that much down on your luck that you are offering to teach in exchange for a place to live and food?
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Spreading covid conspiracy crap. I wouldn't let him anywhere near kids.jackrossi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:35 ampermission+denied wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:15 amwhat about hiring an expat with the appropriate knowledge in exchange for room and board?jackrossi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:09 pmLooking for a school recomendation for middle class Khmer kid beginning grade 1.
The parents are locals and make around 800-900$ a month together so i guess it should be something below 200$ a month.
Honestly I have no clue regarding what is available in Phnom Penh for that budget but they asked me if I could check with some foreign teachers for them what is the best bang for their bucks.
If you have any suggestions it is much appreciated.
Are you that much down on your luck that you are offering to teach in exchange for a place to live and food?
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He probably can't get a job because he's unvaccinated.jackrossi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:35 ampermission+denied wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:15 amwhat about hiring an expat with the appropriate knowledge in exchange for room and board?jackrossi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:09 pmLooking for a school recomendation for middle class Khmer kid beginning grade 1.
The parents are locals and make around 800-900$ a month together so i guess it should be something below 200$ a month.
Honestly I have no clue regarding what is available in Phnom Penh for that budget but they asked me if I could check with some foreign teachers for them what is the best bang for their bucks.
If you have any suggestions it is much appreciated.
Are you that much down on your luck that you are offering to teach in exchange for a place to live and food?
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Is that what Beltei costs these days? Is that for full day or half day?v12 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:59 pmBeltei is spread out all over the town. Tuition fees (Khmer + English) would be around USD 100/month, add pocket money to that, add (Khmer school) bus transportation and some more small stuff.jackrossi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:09 pmLooking for a school recomendation for middle class Khmer kid beginning grade 1.
The parents are locals and make around 800-900$ a month together so i guess it should be something below 200$ a month.
Honestly I have no clue regarding what is available in Phnom Penh for that budget but they asked me if I could check with some foreign teachers for them what is the best bang for their bucks.
If you have any suggestions it is much appreciated.
I am not unhappy about Beltie. The leadership seems to be genuinely interested to properly educate the kids.
About 6 years ago it was about 350 for early grades, rising to 600 for upper grades. These were annual fees.
They did had out 'scholarships' like confetti though, and it wasn't too difficult to get a 15-20% discount on fees back then.
I found it 'fine'. Not good, not bad. There wasn't really a personal interest in the child though, more of an education factory.
They do have loads of campuses though, no matter where you are in town there is guaranteed to be a Beltei close to you.
Beltei: My kids are now in their 6th year at Beltei. Actually, one "finished" last year with her virtual Khmer exam.
The tuition is split in Khmer and English classes. All is for "half-day", though they call it "full-time".
Khmer tuition does cost USD 500 (grade 1) to USD 600 (grade 6), and USD 700 (grade 7) to USD 750 (grade 12). All yearly pricing, since, yeah, you go for the long term, isn't it ?
English tuition is split in "pre-school", 6 levels, USD 250 for 6 months, and "Young Learner", 6 levels, USD 280 (level 1) - USD 300 (grade 6). For English, kids do exam for the next level, every 6 months, so the 6 months chunks are the way to go for long term commitments.
During Covid-19, I kept the kids signed up at school, doing the lessons largely on Telegram/Zoom. Now, they returned to school classes, though where the classes are big, the government does have limits on the amount of children in the classroom, so they do half at home for Khmer tuition.
What I like is that both the Campus Director and the Director of English are very approachable. Effectively, a parent can just walk in and speak (provided available, of course). No big man bla bla, though just operational cooperating. The locations do seem to have little overhead.
What I also like, is that the school does work actively on morality, bullying, etc.
And, maybe even the most important, kids love Beltei. Another one is in the pipeline and despite she only got just 5 years old, she is already jumping up and down to go to Beltei, just because of the stories the others do bring home.
Teachers seem to be all native Khmer, which makes the cultural gap for the kids minimal (vs. "Western" teachers).
I do have the impression, the Khmer owner of the school does have serious interests in providing proper education to his fellow Khmer people and Beltei is not being considered a money machine (Covid-19 experiences show that too).
Though, all in all, it still is Khmer based, significantly better than the state-run schools, though still far behind in methods, etc, compared to EU state schools. So, don't expect the kids to reach a Western level of thinking, though that would not be possible anyway, given the Khmer background of the kid's parents. In the end, they are Khmers and simply have a different view on how to live a life. But, hey, this is Khmer culture, not Western culture, accept that.
So, for the money, I think, you get a proper education Beltei, though it is still far behind what is reached at EU schools (especially the northern half of the EU). Not to say, I think, you have to spend an order of magnitude more money to get only a little increase in schooling value.
Signing up Khmer kids with a parent background as at Beltei, to Western oriented schools in Cambodia would give a huge culture clash at home. You can't reach EU Western levels of thinking in just one generation, when starting from a farmer level. It'll need an extra, or maybe even 2 generations. I wish it would be different, but it's not.
The tuition is split in Khmer and English classes. All is for "half-day", though they call it "full-time".
Khmer tuition does cost USD 500 (grade 1) to USD 600 (grade 6), and USD 700 (grade 7) to USD 750 (grade 12). All yearly pricing, since, yeah, you go for the long term, isn't it ?
English tuition is split in "pre-school", 6 levels, USD 250 for 6 months, and "Young Learner", 6 levels, USD 280 (level 1) - USD 300 (grade 6). For English, kids do exam for the next level, every 6 months, so the 6 months chunks are the way to go for long term commitments.
During Covid-19, I kept the kids signed up at school, doing the lessons largely on Telegram/Zoom. Now, they returned to school classes, though where the classes are big, the government does have limits on the amount of children in the classroom, so they do half at home for Khmer tuition.
What I like is that both the Campus Director and the Director of English are very approachable. Effectively, a parent can just walk in and speak (provided available, of course). No big man bla bla, though just operational cooperating. The locations do seem to have little overhead.
What I also like, is that the school does work actively on morality, bullying, etc.
And, maybe even the most important, kids love Beltei. Another one is in the pipeline and despite she only got just 5 years old, she is already jumping up and down to go to Beltei, just because of the stories the others do bring home.
Teachers seem to be all native Khmer, which makes the cultural gap for the kids minimal (vs. "Western" teachers).
I do have the impression, the Khmer owner of the school does have serious interests in providing proper education to his fellow Khmer people and Beltei is not being considered a money machine (Covid-19 experiences show that too).
Though, all in all, it still is Khmer based, significantly better than the state-run schools, though still far behind in methods, etc, compared to EU state schools. So, don't expect the kids to reach a Western level of thinking, though that would not be possible anyway, given the Khmer background of the kid's parents. In the end, they are Khmers and simply have a different view on how to live a life. But, hey, this is Khmer culture, not Western culture, accept that.
So, for the money, I think, you get a proper education Beltei, though it is still far behind what is reached at EU schools (especially the northern half of the EU). Not to say, I think, you have to spend an order of magnitude more money to get only a little increase in schooling value.
Signing up Khmer kids with a parent background as at Beltei, to Western oriented schools in Cambodia would give a huge culture clash at home. You can't reach EU Western levels of thinking in just one generation, when starting from a farmer level. It'll need an extra, or maybe even 2 generations. I wish it would be different, but it's not.
It is probably a stretch on their budget, but Learning Jungle/Westview wouldn't be too far away from their location. I've got Spigz Jnr in there, at $4k per annum or thereabouts, I'd need to fish out the receipt for the exact figure - so $100/m over what they might want, but can recommend as a solid school for reliable teachers (mix of local+foreign) & curriculum.
Meum est propositum in taberna mori,
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
I know a good number of Cambodians who completed Master's degrees in the west. More than a handful were born to farmer parents. People can succeed in all kinds of ways, academic success is only one, but don't automatically think it is beyond Khmers, or always takes 2 generations to get there. That is racist, silly, and untrue.
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