Listen to this from David Attenborough
You would have thought that negative changes to the environment should have been starkly obvious during the days of Attenborough's youth; but, awareness of the "greenhouse effect" as it was called during the 1980s never seemed to agitate any serious forethought -- although scientists were aware of it during the 1950s and long before -- as the world so happily raced ahead to recover from the second war...
In 1896 Svante Arrhenius calculated the effect of a doubling atmospheric carbon dioxide to be an increase in surface temperatures of 5–6 degrees Celsius.
As a matter of fact, discussion of environmental changes was suppressed. For example, in the late 80s, I remember reading about how Canadian newspaper, The Globe and Mail dropped David Suzuki's column on nature, science and the environment, which ran between 1985 and 1987, because the owners did not like his constant railing against fossil fuel industries, etc... That was A LONG TIME AGO... Today, the powers are still in denial, and those with extra cash are not keen to curtail their flamboyant lifestyles... Why is this? Because of vanity, cynicism, selfishness and arrogant denial!
...I believe that we human beings will most definitely go through a lot of serious crises during the next 100 years, and it will be a miracle if there are any wild animals left, and a miracle if billions of us don't die quickly -- as a direct result of climate-induced crisis. ...For example: imagine what will happen if India sustains tremendous heatwaves or the complete loss of its mountain glaciers, which sustain its river systems... Thousands and millions can die within weeks as such crises unfold very quickly.
And what if we experience another pandemic, like this one, which has been caused by overpopulation? Perhaps a gross culling of humanity is the only way we can survive, and the Earth can regenerate? Maybe if we "lost" 4 billion of us tomorrow, the world would "get better"? Nature can cull -- and knows how to -- perhaps especially if we continue helping her along with our non-stop depradations.
Further, we know that the oceans up to now have acted as the chief buffer for the human heat explosion.
However, as the oceans rise -- due to melting of ice caps & glaciers & thermal expansion of physical volume -- it is the heating of the water that will aggravate acidification and deoxygenation... Like the poison atmosphere over southeast Asia this season, it will shorten and eliminate the life of whole species, and already has: few pristine coral sanctuaries flourish right now -- except in the most remote corners of the planet's oceans...
Did you know, that most of the biomass of terrestrial "animalia" are arthropods... 80% of the world's species consist of insects on land, and sea crustaceans in the oceans... Little bugs like ants, spiders, and shrimp and lobster at the bottom of sea may indeed inherit the earth, lol.
A report on Biomass distribution globally...
I am so very happy that I never had any children! For those of you with kids, my heart goes out to you. But there are TOOO MAAANY people on this Earth, and I think that the world as we know it will not be here at all any longer by the time they reach their old age...
So maybe think twice about buying that next SUV... Or big bike... I want to get rid of my 250, and go for something smaller... Or just ride my bicycle all the time...
https://www.khmer24.com/en/motorcycles/ ... &location=
Is the Earth Going Down Fast?
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Is the Earth Going Down Fast?
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
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Earth will recover once we are gone. It’s humans who will go down, taking too many species with us. Earth will continue.
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The best managerial option to protect the planet is to do nothing.
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Here is an interesting story about the popular language of climate science.
In my teens and twenties, it was called "The Greenhouse Effect" ...then it became "Global Warming"... Now it is called "Climate Change"...
The article should simply conclude with the obvious statement, "global warming causes climate change"... (anyway, nobody reads this thread, it isn't a local petty crime story... who cares...)
https://grist.org/climate/report-nobody ... g-anymore/
In my teens and twenties, it was called "The Greenhouse Effect" ...then it became "Global Warming"... Now it is called "Climate Change"...
The article should simply conclude with the obvious statement, "global warming causes climate change"... (anyway, nobody reads this thread, it isn't a local petty crime story... who cares...)
https://grist.org/climate/report-nobody ... g-anymore/
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
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But wait, we havent concreted over the entire land mass yet.
Earth in a thousand years will be a ball of concrete and dead seas.
How will the planet recover from that?
Earth in a thousand years will be a ball of concrete and dead seas.
How will the planet recover from that?
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COP26 is coming soon: Glasgow, U.K., October 31 to November 12...
Quite revealing Economist article about the current unflagging demand for dirty fossil fuels...
Despite Concerns Demand for Dirty Fuels is Surging
As you can see, the main national resistance to deal-making is coming from China, Russia and the Saudis...
I suppose I am cynical to say, that even if they could make a deal at COP26, it is just a charade and we are going to continue to burn down everything until we disappear... What do you think? Are meetings of concerned experts and government ministers useless, since they have minimal power or influence over what actually happens in the real world of consumption, and the control of economies by the rich owners of the global fossil fuel system?
All of us are deeply implicated... If you went to the moto shop to buy a new bike, and if nothing but electric ones were available, you would just buy it and not think about it. In the not too distant future, battery technology will improve immensely. A lot of research is being carried out in this field. All we need is solar arrays in the vast empty deserts of Arabia, America, Africa and also upon the ruined scrub lands of Cambodia and everywhere else... And huge solar-powered hydrogen extraction factories... To change the water into fuel...
BUT -- nope.....cop... n.thing... sigh, cry, die...
https://ukcop26.org/
COP26 is coming soon: Glasgow, U.K., October 31 to November 12...
Quite revealing Economist article about the current unflagging demand for dirty fossil fuels...
Despite Concerns Demand for Dirty Fuels is Surging
As you can see, the main national resistance to deal-making is coming from China, Russia and the Saudis...
I suppose I am cynical to say, that even if they could make a deal at COP26, it is just a charade and we are going to continue to burn down everything until we disappear... What do you think? Are meetings of concerned experts and government ministers useless, since they have minimal power or influence over what actually happens in the real world of consumption, and the control of economies by the rich owners of the global fossil fuel system?
All of us are deeply implicated... If you went to the moto shop to buy a new bike, and if nothing but electric ones were available, you would just buy it and not think about it. In the not too distant future, battery technology will improve immensely. A lot of research is being carried out in this field. All we need is solar arrays in the vast empty deserts of Arabia, America, Africa and also upon the ruined scrub lands of Cambodia and everywhere else... And huge solar-powered hydrogen extraction factories... To change the water into fuel...
BUT -- nope.....cop... n.thing... sigh, cry, die...
https://ukcop26.org/
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
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Good theme Thread. I'll give humanity less than an optimistic 1000 years. At the going rate we're racing against a concrete wall. Tscha booom. Good for the planet better to get rid of humanity.
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It has surprised me how the planet damage is accelerating each year. Who would have thought that Siberia would be on fire, while other wild fires rage at the same time around the world?
In not a pessimist but I can foresee millions of people dying over the next 30 years if not sooner.
I do feel terrible for my grandchildren.
History is littered with empires rising and falling due to famines floods environmental degradation droughts etc.
However this is worldwide and Unfortunately I think it's a fait accompli and only a few lucky? people will inherit a much changed world if indeed any can survive.
In not a pessimist but I can foresee millions of people dying over the next 30 years if not sooner.
I do feel terrible for my grandchildren.
History is littered with empires rising and falling due to famines floods environmental degradation droughts etc.
However this is worldwide and Unfortunately I think it's a fait accompli and only a few lucky? people will inherit a much changed world if indeed any can survive.
SQUAWK!!!!
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